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Posted November 4th, 2009 by Shayalyn

#1,201 - There are no bad words, but plenty of bad intentions.

Welcome to the 1,201st edition of Loading...

Loading... is the premier daily MMORPG news, coverage, and commentary newsletter, only from Ten Ton Hammer.

We all have different tolerance thresholds when it comes to language--what some find offensive, others shrug off. Words aren't innately bad; it's the intention behind them that matters. But are some words always derogatory, and thus people who use them always offensive? Despite a gaming culture littered with a certain offensive word, to the point that we're all but immune to it, I say yes. Read up on the latest video gaming bad word scandal in today's Loading... No Bad Words.


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I've always loved the late George Carlin's take on bad words. Before giving his infamous list of the 7 Words You Can't Say on Television, he would say that there were no bad words, only bad intentions. And I agree with him. While I'd like to think I have a respectable vocabulary, I've also been known to swear like a sailor. I let my teenage kids swear, too. Prohibiting certain words, to me, is pointless, since they'll likely drop an f-bomb or two when they're among friends anyhow. I'd rather teach them to have respect for their fellow human beings than banish specific disrespectful words.

Despite my liberal use of colorful language, respect for my fellow human beings is the reason that there are certain words, such as ethnic slurs, I do not use. It seems no matter how you use these words, directed at a group of people you're not a part of, they're going to come off as loaded with bad intentions.

Now, let's shift gears for a second. I'm not a big fan of first person shooters, primarily because they seem to bring on severe motion sickness for me, but secondarily because the whole FPS culture isn't appealing. I've watched my son play HALO 3 often enough to understand that maturity isn't an inherent quality of the FPS crowd, at least not generally speaking. But if you're a developer catering to that crowd, you might want to get right down to their level, and so you might do something controversial playing off a word that's a staple of the FPS lingo.

Last week, Infinity Ward, makers of the FPS that's on many a gamer's radar, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, published what I'm sure they thought was a fun and edgy video aimed squarely at the FPS crowd. The video, a satirical public service announcement that appeared on their YouTube channel, used an in-game iteration of Phillies pitcher Cole Hamel who proclaimed that the act of grenade spamming was "for pussies." The announcement was supported by a fictional group called Fight Against Grenade Spamming--F.A.G.S.

You really can't use the word "fag" with pure intentions, can you? Just about any way you slice it, it's derogatory. (Unless you're in jolly old England and you're referring to a cigarette.) One could certainly argue that it's all part of the FPS culture, and that its usage has become so diluted that it's harmless, but...I think that's a cop out. I can't quite wrap my head around the notion of "everybody does it" being a legitimate reason to promote hateful language.

You may disagree with me, and I respect your opinion. As I've said, I don't believe that words in and of themselves are ever innately bad. I'll also concede that there's a possibility there are some gay people out there who don't find the use of "fag" offensive within the framework of an FPS. And maybe it's tough to fight the system--people use the term in-game, and there's really nothing much any player or developer is going to be able to do, short of including language filters which are useless in voice chat anyhow, to make the problem go away.

But while developers may not want to police their in-game communities to eradicate problem language (nor should they; no one wants to be censored and, juvenile behavior and young players aside, we're all adults here), I believe they do have a responsibility when it comes to what they put out into the community at large. There's a difference between irreverence and irresponsibility. Infinity Ward's viral video, which has since been pulled due to community outrage, was irresponsible. Language that most developers and gaming communities filter from their forums should never have made it into a video promoting a game that's nearing launch.

It's often said that there's no such thing as bad publicity, but in this case that adage just might be wrong. Will Infinity Ward pay for its foolishness? If the blogs and Twitters I've seen, along with comments from gaming community managers I associate with, are any indication, the answer is yes, at least to some small degree. I know several people within my own limited circle who have cancelled their preorders as a direct result of the F.A.G.S video.

Is the use of the term fag in video games a slur against people of a certain sexual orientation, or has it simply become a harmless part of the culture? I know where I stand, and now I'd like to hear from you. Join the discussion in the Loading... forum.


Shayalyn's Epic Thread of the Day

From our STO General Discussion

Star Trek vs. Star Wars

One of our forum denizens necroed this post back to life, and far be it for me to deny its right to live. 

When it comes to sci-fi games, two big titles spring to mind: Star Trek Online and Star Wars: The Old Republic. Back in May, Spare wanted to know which one was a clear winner for you. And now that STO is in beta and gearing up for a launch early next year, the question seems all the more relevant. So, which will it be: Star Trek or Star Wars? (Keeping in mind that you can have both, of course.) Join the chat!

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Words can sting like a thousand angry beavers. I try to choose mine carefully.

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Well when I grew up a fag was a cigarette and I have never been to England. If you look at the worst hate mongers for gay/lesbian/transgender you will find that they are christians which should not be doing this since it is against what jc preached. I do not tolerate hate speech and intolerance from anyone including family members. In games when it happens I will speak up and voice my objections, if it keeps up I will report it.

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Is the use of the term fag in video games a slur against people of a certain sexual orientation, or has it simply become a harmless part of the culture? I know where I stand
In my opinion, yes it is derogatory, but not necessarily intended against people of a certain sexual orientation. For a very long period of time a majority of the gay males who were in the public eye were very effeminate they spoke with a lisp and flitted around. This image w...

Words by theme selves are not bad. The problem is words never go solo. Words are always accompanied by either, other words, inflection, or body language. You simply never find a single word on a blank canvas with nothing affecting that word and giving it a deeper meaning.

Society indicates what words are inherently bad based on current cultural standards. A good example of this is in the UK area a fag being a reference to what we call in the US a cigarette.

Having said all of that...

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Originally Posted by ZeroMerc View Post
“That really fing pissed me off. “

Then more power to you. If that is the way you choose to speak then okay. I don’t play the game to tell you every little word you use is bad. Now if you said something like...

“You, ZeroMerc are a complete piece of crap and know nothing and really should put on your helmet and get back on the bus”

I am might get offended and say something about it. Really ther...

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