A Brief Digression About Atlas
Last week’s column is now an item of deep irony because I was restrained in predicting how Atlas would survive the fall of its capital systems. A mere day after it was published, Atlas cascaded - or, rather, it did something worse than cascade, it begged the Drone Russian alliances for a Versailles-esque peace. The terms make your skin crawl; for the price of half of the supercapitals Atlas is producing and permanently disbanding their alliance, Atlas will be allowed to keep the other half of their building supercapitals and allowed to exist in some kind of undead vassal-state in deepest Omist, one of the most remote regions in the game. This is nauseating to most of the nullsec community; long-time Atlas allies Against All Authorities instantly reset Atlas and is intent on attacking what remains of them for the sheer insult. Rather than simply disintegrating or retreating to empire, Atlas has given their oppressors the means to vastly increase the size of the very supercapital fleet which annihilated them in the first place.
But don’t take it from me; let’s see what Bobby Atlas himself has to say! Here’s a leak from the Atlas command channel when Bobby found out the news:
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:12 ] Bobby Atlas > a deal with RA , are you guys crazy?
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:21 ] kaahooters > aperantyly yes
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:22 ] kaahooters > but
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:27 ] Bobby Atlas > no but
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:29 ] kaahooters > you resigned and we fell apart
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:42 ] Bobby Atlas > everyone was told over 5 weeks ago
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:45 ] Bobby Atlas > to stop building supercaps
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:46 ] kaahooters > yea
[ 2010.08.27 18:33:53 ] kaahooters > these were in build then
[ 2010.08.27 18:34:00 ] Frobond > thats prity much what i said bobby
[ 2010.08.27 18:34:02 ] kaahooters > and that mail was for outside omist
[ 2010.08.27 18:34:37 ] Bobby Atlas > why the hell are you guys making a deal, alienating ATLAS from what blues we have left (even if they are on a knee themself), for the few cap producers, in the name of alienating the rest of the alliance
[ 2010.08.27 18:34:55 ] kaahooters > not my call
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:03 ] kaahooters > im just sayin what i know
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:05 ] Bobby Atlas > i am hereby issuing notice
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:06 ] Bobby Atlas > 7 days
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:09 ] Bobby Atlas > the alliance is disbanding
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:10 ] kaahooters > till?
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:12 ] kaahooters > :O
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:13 ] Bobby Atlas > problem solved
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:25 ] kaahooters > i see
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:35 ] kaahooters > well thats noot really fair bobby
[ 2010.08.27 18:35:41 ] Bobby Atlas > it doesnt have to be fair
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:04 ] kaahooters > decision was made without you as you resigned as leader, so ,
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:11 ] kaahooters > i dont think itll go down well if you do taht
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:20 ] Bobby Atlas > it doesnt have to go down well
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:43 ] Bobby Atlas > the minute ra get there supercaps there just going to continue the invasion with xix/friends
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:50 ] Bobby Atlas > and since the deal brokered involves resetting -a-
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:54 ] Bobby Atlas > it means rol will reset also
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:57 ] Bobby Atlas > and init eventually
[ 2010.08.27 18:36:59 ] kaahooters > and by that satage we should have all our crap out
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:05 ] Bobby Atlas > leaivng atlas alone and dead anyways
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:18 ] Kerdrak > \o
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:19 ] Kirianshalee > :sigh
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:30 ] Vorce > I thought the desition about disbanding had allready been mad. Unless I missunderstood the discussion last night
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:31 ] kaahooters > bobby its dead as it is, noone will pewpew cos your not here
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:44 ] Bobby Atlas > [18:37:30] Vorce > I thought the desition about disbanding had allready been mad. Unless I missunderstood the discussion last night
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:47 ] Bobby Atlas > explain vorce
[ 2010.08.27 18:37:56 ] Aurora148 > its part of the deal
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:00 ] Aurora148 > atlas is disbanded
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:08 ] Vorce > I'm not sure, was semi afk but i saw talks about disbanding
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:09 ] kaahooters > i didnt get told that
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:13 ] Bobby Atlas > part of the deal brokered involves atlas disbanding?
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:18 ] Bobby Atlas > that is an actual term in the deal?
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:21 ] Madcat144 > yes
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:26 ] Bobby Atlas > are you f***in joking?
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:29 ] Madcat144 > no
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:36 ] Bobby Atlas > did they ask you to suck there ****s too
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:37 ] kaahooters > i was told 2 titans 3 sc to ra ect, we get blue, have to drop our blues and thats it
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:40 ] Bobby Atlas > and give up your wives
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:47 ] Kerdrak > bobby, can you magically reimburse all cap builders?
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:53 ] Bobby Atlas > KERDRAK
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:57 ] Bobby Atlas > all cap builders were told
[ 2010.08.27 18:38:59 ] Bobby Atlas > over 5 weeks ago
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:01 ] Bobby Atlas > to STOP BUILDING
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:14 ] Bobby Atlas > it was in the leadership topic
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:16 ] Bobby Atlas > for weeks
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:21 ] Gloria Khan > hi Bobby
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:24 ] Kerdrak > we also were told we would defend
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:30 ] Kerdrak > we would had allies
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:32 ] Kerdrak > and all that
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:37 ] Shaleen > it takes more than 5 weeks to buld a titan
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:45 ] kaahooters > -a- f****d, sos rol
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:46 ] Bobby Atlas > at the time when the order was put up
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:49 ] Shaleen > *build
[ 2010.08.27 18:39:51 ] Bobby Atlas > there was 1 titan in build
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:05 ] Kerdrak > when i built my titan we were under nor threat
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:22 ] Bobby Atlas > good for you
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:33 ] Bobby Atlas > the actions of the few, should not alienate the many
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:41 ] Kerdrak > yeah
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:43 ] Kerdrak > you are right
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:47 ] Bobby Atlas > membership above all else
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:50 ] Kerdrak > the many here are the people who want to save some isk
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:53 ] Bobby Atlas > the fact the few have supercaps building
[ 2010.08.27 18:40:57 ] Bobby Atlas > should not dictate policy
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:01 ] Kerdrak > as the remaining have already evacced
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:12 ] Kerdrak > and the alliance is DEAD
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:13 ] Bobby Atlas > the many are not the membership
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:24 ] Tenhult > so we have like 7 days now and all super caps are gone?
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:34 ] kaahooters > yup
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:44 ] Bobby Atlas > i will not sit by and watch a sellout to ra that has such retarded terms
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:48 ] Madcat144 > till bigger and better things
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:52 ] Bobby Atlas > i will sooner disband it myself
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:55 ] Madcat144 > 7 days till we can move on
[ 2010.08.27 18:41:59 ] Tenhult > things change fast in this game :-)
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:08 ] Bobby Atlas > you dont create policy and terms around the supercap builders
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:11 ] Kerdrak > now you are taking the justice by your only hand
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:28 ] Bobby Atlas > no im not
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:28 ] Kerdrak > you have created policy under your only terms
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:32 ] Kerdrak > all this time
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:37 ] kaahooters > it did work
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:39 ] Kerdrak > and nobody said anything
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:42 ] kaahooters > but only whe you were here
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:44 ] Bobby Atlas > i always created policy on behalf of the members
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:45 ] Kerdrak > you MADE DEALS with RA
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:46 ] Bobby Atlas > not myself
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:47 ] Kerdrak > in teh past
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:51 ] Bobby Atlas > wrong
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:53 ] Kerdrak > and we have to say "ok bobby"
[ 2010.08.27 18:42:54 ] Bobby Atlas > WRONG
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:13 ] Bobby Atlas > there is a difference between deals
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:16 ] Tenhult > can you make bigger caps bobby?
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:27 ] Kerdrak > no there is no difference
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:29 ] Bobby Atlas > no but you can
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:35 ] Bobby Atlas > click the a+ button
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:36 ] kaahooters > thats not fair, bobby can get everyone in the alliance in caps
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:38 ] Bobby Atlas > works like a charm
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:40 ] kaahooters > bobby
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:44 ] kaahooters > a arent comin to help
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:47 ] Kerdrak > i made a deal to satisfy the most people
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:51 ] Bobby Atlas > i know -a- arnt coming
[ 2010.08.27 18:43:53 ] Bobby Atlas > -a- is dying too
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:00 ] Kerdrak > and the majority is ok
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:01 ] Bobby Atlas > no you made a deal to satisfy the cap builders
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:02 ] kaahooters > then whats the problem
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:03 ] Bobby Atlas > above all else
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:08 ] kaahooters > you know we cant do s**t
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:10 ] Kerdrak > THE PROBLEM IS THE E-HONOUR....
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:12 ] Kerdrak > meh
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:19 ] kaahooters > and d your raging at kend for doin the best he can
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:19 ] Kinizsi > ROL die allso?
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:30 ] Bobby Atlas > ROL will just merge
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:30 ] Aurora148 > all the good people left rol for wn
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:33 ] Kerdrak > i've never seen a rol ship
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:34 ] Kerdrak > tbh
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:34 ] Bobby Atlas > with another rusk group
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:38 ] Bobby Atlas > mostly WN
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:39 ] Bobby Atlas > ya
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:44 ] Dexster916 > it would also include safe evac for those with ships remaining in stations, to my members thats pretty imprortant :\
[ 2010.08.27 18:44:58 ] Kerdrak > and -a- the only fleet that have taken to our territory was to fight init
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:02 ] Kerdrak > that is pretty pathetic
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:08 ] madhapee > ^^
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:19 ] Kerdrak > so no... bobby, sorry but i'm bored of this s**t
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:22 ] Gloria Khan > it is poinless shouting over this guys - it is the deal we have agreed
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:25 ] Kerdrak > and we are not gonna lose more stuff
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:31 ] Gloria Khan > this^^
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:33 ] Kerdrak > we are done
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:41 ] Kerdrak > best thing we can do is save what we can
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:43 ] Kerdrak > reform
[ 2010.08.27 18:45:45 ] Kerdrak > and start again
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:11 ] kaahooters > we grew to fat and lazy, with to much inactivity at all levels
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:16 ] Bobby Atlas > there is nothing to reform if you sell out like this
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:16 ] Kerdrak > i don't care about e-honour and dealing with russians... this is a game
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:23 ] Bobby Atlas > [18:46:11] kaahooters > we grew to fat and lazy, with to much inactivity at all levels
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:26 ] Bobby Atlas > nope not even close
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:35 ] Kerdrak > you can have the holding and the alliance if you want
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:36 ] madhapee > its more of a tactical retreat i think
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:40 ] Kerdrak > and put it in a keychain
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:40 ] kaahooters > dude, we havent done anything since geminate
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:46 ] Madcat144 > we made the deal already? we cant go back?
[ 2010.08.27 18:46:52 ] madhapee > recovering as much as we can and losing less than we will
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:04 ] Kerdrak > no, we can't go back and we wont unless someone put 200b in the table
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:04 ] Shaleen > soo Bobby you left alliance you post "I am sorry" , Kerdrak takes over and tries to save what he can and you just log in and say "lets look after members" ....
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:19 ] Kerdrak > someone give me noe 200b and i will the russians to f*** off
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:20 ] Bobby Atlas > geminate finished in feb we came home went provi then north which was a cluster f*** then back south
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:22 ] Bobby Atlas > and a month later
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:28 ] Kirianshalee > saveing billiions is looking after corps
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:29 ] Bobby Atlas > ruskies started pounding on s***
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:37 ] Bobby Atlas > so dont say we sat idle
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:44 ] Gloria Khan > guys chill out. lets move on
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:50 ] Gloria Khan > look ahead not back
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:58 ] kaahooters > yea, and our particaption was weining since geminate, f*** all went and cleared out prov
[ 2010.08.27 18:47:58 ] Shaleen > that`s why Kerdrak try to achieve
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:16 ] Kerdrak > i did what people asked
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:20 ] Kerdrak > to save stuff
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:26 ] Kerdrak > we have to pay for that
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:29 ] Gloria Khan > i backed Kerdrak 100%
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:30 ] Kerdrak > e-honour?
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:37 ] kaahooters > f*** e honour
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:39 ] kaahooters > its a game
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:42 ] Tenhult > move on where? we cant do s*** as bobby cant/wont run the alliance. But disband it every time we do something he doesnt like
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:49 ] kaahooters > and ppl dont like losing, and less losing everything they have
[ 2010.08.27 18:48:53 ] Kerdrak > in 2 months nobody will care
[ 2010.08.27 18:49:36 ] Kerdrak > everyone have the chance to evac their stuff, pay the lost titans and the builders
[ 2010.08.27 18:49:44 ] Kerdrak > then when all numbers are done
[ 2010.08.27 18:49:51 ] Kerdrak > everyone can follow their path
[ 2010.08.27 18:49:55 ] Kerdrak > or keep together
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:04 ] Vorce > Will that deal include getting s*** out of Detorid as well?
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:09 ] kaahooters > and bobby loged
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:14 ] Dexster916 > i really hope he doesnt disband our alliance...
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:15 ] Shaleen > haha , very nice logged off
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:16 ] Kirianshalee > sccrew bobby
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:23 ] Vorce > Will that deal include getting s*** out of Detorid as well?
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:23 ] kaahooters > expect ts and forums to erage deelete and alliance disbanded in 30 min
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:27 ] madhapee > so the usual from bobby ?
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:37 ] Kerdrak > gl disbandind the ally
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:40 ] Vera Vagabond > bobby doesnt have roles to dispand
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:44 ] Vera Vagabond > i just checked
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:47 ] kaahooters > epic
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:50 ] Dexster916 > ok good lol
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:54 ] Kerdrak > and tbh if he shutdown the forum
[ 2010.08.27 18:50:57 ] Kerdrak > will do us a favor
[ 2010.08.27 18:51:07 ] madhapee > less info for the spais
[ 2010.08.27 18:51:13 ] Vorce > This place is like a chatroom for kids right now
[ 2010.08.27 18:51:27 ] kaahooters > are you sayin atlas is all pedos?
[ 2010.08.27 18:51:30 ] Lady Youwish > Bobby did have one good idea
[ 2010.08.27 18:52:24 ] kaahooters > tbh, all i care about is gettin the guys that lost titans something to compensate them
[ 2010.08.27 18:52:36 ] Madcat144 > [ 2010.08.27 18:35:05 ] Bobby Atlas > i am hereby issuing notice[ 2010.08.27 18:35:06 ] Bobby Atlas > 7 days[ 2010.08.27 18:35:09 ] Bobby Atlas > the alliance is disbanding
[ 2010.08.27 18:52:37 ] Madcat144 > ?
[ 2010.08.27 18:52:47 ] Shaleen > and that is exactly what Kerdrak is trying to achieve
[ 2010.08.27 18:53:07 ] Madcat144 > in two months
[ 2010.08.27 18:53:09 ] Kerdrak > have no sense
[ 2010.08.27 18:53:12 ] Kerdrak > he abandoned us
[ 2010.08.27 18:53:19 ] Kerdrak > but he comes when we take a decision
[ 2010.08.27 18:53:21 ] kaahooters > look
[ 2010.08.27 18:59:31 ] Kerdrak > BobbyAtlas dice: why were my roles in holding
Even though I’m jaded from years of reading spy reports of the sorrows of other alliances in the midst of a cascade, that log is positively delectable. I get a frisson every time I read it. Amazing.
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