Universal PvP Toggle for PvE Realms in Warlords? Yes, Please!

Posted Fri, Jan 31, 2014 by Mem

The optional toggle option for PvP, coming in Warlords of Draenor, is some of the best news we've heard so far.

Booty Bay PvP

There are two main types of servers players can choose from when starting their World of Warcraft adventure; PvE (Player vs. Everything) or PvP (Player vs. Player). As most of us know, those who select PvP servers are in for a far greater challenge. They have to not only defend themselves against mobs found in the world, but also against other players. With few safe places, players on PvP servers can face death at any moment.


On PvE servers, things are a bit less intense, but no less fun. Players still have to face off against the nasty mobs out for blood, but other players are not a threat, even if the player is of the opposing faction. The way it is supposed to work, players should be able to choose when they want to flag themselves for some PvP or head into a PvP designated zone, like an arena or battleground. Of course this is not always the way things work out.


Hapless PvE Server Bystander Syndrome

In fact, more often than you would think, players find themselves in unwanted PvP situations just by misclicking. Not to mention the host of shenanigans that players have enacted to You know the ones I'm talking about, flagged players hovering over mailboxes or popular NPCs, jumping around in front of melee characters until they accidentally click on them and troves of others that have been perfected over the years.


Even just the simple healing of a friend, who happens to be toggled PvP, can earn you your own flag. Who cares if you didn't notice that their PvP flag was on, you now have to pay the price. If you are like me, you hide in a corner somewhere until the flag wears off and hope no one finds you or you can simply resign yourself and join in the PvP madness.


Either way, we end up feeling like PvP is being jammed in our face. We didn't make the choice, not really, but we still have to face the consequences. Wouldn't it be nice if PvP really was a choice you could make all the time? In fact, shouldn't it *always* be totally up to the player if they wish to PvP or not? No mistakes, no players able to troll you, simply your option to choose if you want to take part in PvP on a PvE server or not? I think so.


PvP PvE Realm List


Toggling PvP Off in Warlords of Draenor


Of course, my opinion is just a small drop in a larger pool. What really matters, is what the big man upstairs (in this case Blizzard) thinks about the subject and sometimes that is not very clear. However, in this case a recent Blizzard blue post by Bashiok has made things pretty crystal clear. After a lengthy post titled “Stop..ramming..pvp..down...my..throat!!!”, in which a poster laments the PvP he feels he is forced into, Bashiok had this to say in response


Well, I understand where you're coming from, but flagging as a PvE character is based on a player's action to flag themselves (even if it's on accident), so I'm not sure it's us making you PvP. The systems that can cause someone to flag can absolutely at times be involuntary, which is notably frustrating.


In any case we are continuing toward a goal of a PvP on/off toggle for players on PvE realms to be added in Warlords of Draenor, which would absolutely and in all situations allow someone to refrain from becoming flagged regardless of their actions. Heals toward flagged players would fail, coalescing to PvP realms wouldn't be possible, misclicks and AoE's would never damage a flagged opponent, etc. It's actually quite a bit of work because of all the systems involved, but it's still something we think PvE players should have, and how the game should work for them.”


Turns out, Blizzard agrees with my (and many others) opinion that PvP for players looking for a PvE experience should be totally and absolutely optional. To address the problem, we can expect an on/off button for players on PvE realms that will be added in Warlords that will allow us to refrain from PvP no matter what. No misclick or trolling player can force us into the PvP arena, we are totally safe to enjoy our PvE experience without fear of being ganked by another player.


PvP Menu


A Choice is a Wonderful Thing

While many will scoff at this plan, I am ecstatic about the idea. I believe that being able to choose if you wish to have a PvP or PvE experience in the game should totally be up to the player. Just like many opt out of raiding, players should be able to totally opt out of PvP. Remember, what is fun for one player, may not be fun for the next.


I can see many players opting for the permanent toggle and I readily admit that I am one of them. PvP has never been my cup of tea (which is why I roll characters on PvE severs) and I will be glad to never have to worry about an accidental PvP flag ever again. How do you feel about the upcoming addition of the toggle to turn PvP totally off for those on PvE servers? Will you be using it? Why or why not? Share your thoughts with us in the comments section below!

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