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Why SWTOR Will Be the Best Thing that Ever Happened to WoW

Updated Mon, Aug 08, 2011 by Saia

When it comes to World of Warcraft, Blizzard is not having a good year. They just announced a loss of another 300,000 players in the last quarter and the launch of Star Wars: The Old Republic is getting closer. Does this spell the end of WoW? Hell no!

You see most people seem to forget that the games industry thrives on multiple titles. For every Final Fantasy game, there are a dozen cheap knockoffs, for every Call of Duty, there is Rainbow Six: Vegas, for every Halo there is Gears of War, for every Elder Scrolls, there is Fable. Oh and for every WoW, there is a SW:TOR, a LotRO, an Aion, a RIFT, a Guild Wars and they’re all clamouring for the top spot.

There are dozens of MMOs out there, all semi-peacefully-coexisting yet there’s also this negative mentality that says only one game can be king. Perhaps this comes from the fact that with many MMOs, you have subscriptions on top of the base game cost. Perhaps it's because MMOs are persistent, requiring many more people on the same server. Perhaps it's because MMOs typically have more updates than the average console title, with shorter release times.

WoW succeeded partly because it was spawned from a successful franchise with its own cult following. SW:TOR will be in a similar position when it eventually launches, what with six films, a TV series and countless computer games under its belt. There’s also a cult following, a rich mythology and a gaggle of people who will literally go to the Dark Side to play it.

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SW:TOR could push WoW to even greater heights.

SW:TOR is about to go into beta and while the launch date hasn’t been confirmed, I’ll bet my lightsaber that it will hit before the end of the year. As as result, Blizzard are going to be on the offensive and so it’s more than likely that this will result in a new expansion announcement at BlizzCon. However, this also means the company is going to be keener than ever to see the launch of Diablo III.

So far, Blizzard hasn’t had a good year with it’s WoW subscriber numbers falling consistently for the last two quarters. However, with the new Diablo game on the horizon and its epic fantasy setting, Blizzard is hoping many of its players will dive into a new game. It’s not WoW but the sales end up in the same pot and there’s always the promise of profits made from the actual-money auction house.

While, typically, most people only devote their time to one MMO, there is no law that says this must always be the case. I suspect that many people will dip their toes into The Old Republic, drawn either by a love of sci-fi or a fascination with the Jedi (and considering it’s a religion here in the UK, that’s quite a large number of people). Whether they stay, well, that depends on the content, upon the gameplay mechanics and how well the game launches. I suspect - and I hate using this term - that if any game is going to be the next ‘WoW-killer’ - that SW:TOR is the next big candidate. Except I do think it’s possible for more than one game to hold the top spot and I also think a little competition is going to do Blizzard some good, they need to remember the MMO world is competitive and, having been the big boys for seven years, they could use that reminder as it will ultimately see WoW become a better game.


TOR is already in beta and has been for awhile. Also they've stated it's coming out in 2011. And while they haven't stated a month it's widely believe sometime in November.

TOR is already in beta and has been for awhile. Also they've stated it's coming out in 2011. And while they haven't stated a month it's widely believe sometime in November.

The release date is 12/31/11 for those that preordered the game.

You are mistaken. Pre-release rights expire on 12/31/11, but no release date has been announced, or even hinted at, by Bioware.

"Holiday Season 2011" isn't a hint?

dec 20 people...

I don't think WoW's decreasing population and initial success is down to anything more than Blizzard changing the game.

WoW's overbalancing act seemed to be trying to make every class in essence the same, in extreme cases allowing us to see utility classes being able to match or outperform dedicated classes.

I left WoW a couple of years back, and to be honest I do not miss it.

Blizzard - I became a Priest because I wanted to heal, thanks for nerfing my healing stats so I could PvP (lol) better. I don't know why you wanted to make it so every class could do everything, but thats the reason people could make multiple characters.

I'm now awaiting the upcoming Traveller-AR mmorpg, which seems to be offering a whole lot more.

I really think Blizzard already sees the demise of WoW coming so I don't think SW:TOR will be a good thing for it. They are already working on another MMO and I think their next MMO will be a hit but, I don't think that they will do anything more to make WoW more competitive in the market.

I don't think this writer fully understands how different SWTOR is from WoW. SWTOR will set the bar for MMOs solely by having interactive story, and incredible depth. WoW has been killing itself. Blizzard has always been lucky enough to make their releases right before their competition, which keeps their subscribers interested in Wow, instead of that new game. Blizzard is not so lucky this time. SWTOR will dominate for months before Blizzard even gets a tiny chance at trying to win back subscribers. Blizzard, it's time to give up your crown.

It's funny how people still using the WOW-KILLER term after so many years. Warhammer Online, Aion, AoC, LOTRO... they were all WoW-KiLLERS before their release. Even DDO was meant to be a WoW-Killer. The story has proven that the only wow-killer is wow itself. The rest can take its crumbs.

About SWTOR? Time will tell. But so far it seems too WoW-ish.

first, if Blizz doesn't see the writing on the wall as to why it's losing players they seriously need to put someone other then a former Marine Biologist at the development wheel.

second, Traveller-AR having so much more then WoW you're kidding right? Have you actually SEEN the gameplay videos for that game, it doesn't come close.

I have to say i am the first person to be talking down about WoW because i played it for five years until they gave the steering wheel to a bunch of money hungry goblins in the dev dept. The reason i can talk bad about it is because i was a long time player, enjoyed the game in it's WOTLK years the most. The reasons i left the game were obvious, endless rep grind with new factions per expansion/mega-updates, dailies that provided sub par gear after such a long drawn out rep grind, poor dungeon design from a strategy stand-point, the constant need to have to completely relearn my class every week due to their endless need to make it a PVP game(completely unnecessary), and who could forget the internal security problem they had with a number of their GM's selling account info including but not limited to the authenticator id's for money that they conveniently made hush hush when the press found out.

The game was fun for a while but they seriously need to clean out the devs and people in charge before i ever return.

You enjoyed Wrath the Most? Really? It was so easy... At least with Cata there was some skill required, not just roll thru a place in 5 minutes.

wait there was skill needed in cata? Did u get a special copy of it or something?

Wow was a game when LBRS and UBRS meant RAIDING, that feeling when 19 ppl were waiting in front of ZG for the tank to come riding from SW :) or that wait for the AQ gates to open. Everything else was ... Like many others said I will say it too : Bring vanilla back and I'll play wow again. I wanna spend a few hours in a 5-man (full night sometimes - remember BRD ST Strat and Scholo - THAT WAS WOW). I played BC, finished Wotlk and left, got back to Cata and I got fully equipped for raiding in a week since Firelands was on (thats not WOW so I quit) Look FW for SWTOR

I think Blizz have been surprised with the success of WoW for years, and tbh i think so has the rest of the gaming industry. Its old news now tho, and they are better set to invest their new devs and new skill into a completely new Blizz based MMO, than try revamp WoW for the millionth time. People will flock to a new Blizz MMO when it comes out im sure.

The main reason people continue to play many MMO's after they become redundant, is the communities they have found there. And for that reason WoW will remain for a long time, I mean they are only stopping SW:Galaxies later this year.. that's been round for ages.. So yer WoW will remain, but it wont hold the MMO crown. I would expect TOR to take that. If it doesn't then I worry a little for the MMO genre.

I've played WoW since Feb 05, and loved it! It was new, fresh, and fun to explore, meet awesome guilds and go on epic quests. But since the Cata xpan I have lost intrest. I totally agree with the first post..and with Oli. I feel Blizz has nerfed what i used to love..to where the classes have a cookie cutter feel to them. *Shrugs*, I don't know...maybe I am like a junkie that has built up a tolerance to the game and can't get the same kind of high I used to out of it..haha. Gimmie a new quality game rich in lore, depth, feel, that feeds my addiction :) I hope that SWTOR is it. I am playing Rift atm, and it just isn't doing it for me...please help!

WOW's community sucks and Blizzard can't or won't do anything to control it. No one I know is still in the game b/c of the nonsense from the griefing children and the disaster that came out of the realm-wide LFG channel. Why stay for the annoyance, on top of the almost daily hotfixes and/or class adjustments, when there are so many other MMOs out there?

I've played WoW for 4 years now, and I think the game was much better than it is now. Cata is... Too much IMO. They tried to patch too much in-between each Patch, and each patch does not seem olto come to my likings. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy WoW, but I'm looking forward to SWTOR.

Raided in WoW from T1 through T11. The game is a shell of its former self in my humble opinion. I would have said a few years ago that nothing would keep me away from Blizzards next MMO. Sadly, the changes to WoW just make me think their next MMO will be simplified to the extreme, as they are doing with WoW now, and I have no intention of grabbing future products. They have alienated a great number of their day 1 players.

Playing Lotro for fun, and waiting on SW:TOR. WoW guild folded after T11, and like half the guild is anxiously awaiting SW:TOR.

Raided in WoW from T1 through T11. The game is a shell of its former self in my humble opinion. I would have said a few years ago that nothing would keep me away from Blizzards next MMO. Sadly, the changes to WoW just make me think their next MMO will be simplified to the extreme, as they are doing with WoW now, and I have no intention of grabbing future products. They have alienated a great number of their day 1 players.

Playing Lotro for fun, and waiting on SW:TOR. WoW guild folded after T11, and like half the guild is anxiously awaiting SW:TOR.

Computer games have a lifespan. WoW will not be making a comeback.

WoW its dying, as old school mmo's, TOR will get its own audience but will be not a hit, i think GW2 could be cause they are giving their best on lore to their game, and all those new features could really improve the genre, we will see....

Its coming 25 November guys.

Looks like ToR is coming out 12/22, its been officially announced

You really can not put TOR or WOW in with LotRO Aion RIFT Guild Wars. I have played a few MMOs one being WOW from the month it launched and no other MMO stands up to WOW. Blizzard has not been tested by a developer like Bioware. Bioware has a big name for it's self and for a good reason because of the quality of their games, just like blizzard had a name for quality games before WOW, and you have not seen that yet in the other MMOs.

After watching the cinimatic trailers and then game play trailers like a scout for an opposing team I pre-orders TOR on the spot. The amount of detail that has been put not only into the cinematic trailers but even the game play reignited a fire that died out right around the middle of Wrath of the Lich King. Like a lot of players I am missing the fire and drive that would push me to play for hours on end. The rude trolls in the game have broken WoW for me I am looking for what every MMO play is pure immersion on to a new world. I REALLY hope TOR does just that and ihope that there will be RP severs to get away from the just play a game to beat it but play a game to sink in and get lost. Being a Starwars based game and having a rich amount of lore to its background this game has a limitless ceiling. I cannot wait to sink into this game!

I do not think TOR will kill wow thats foolish. But having played wow for years and tested TOR in the beta I can say TOR will take a chunk out of wows players base Permanently even if 25 or 50 percent end up playing both wow and TOR or just wow again. Blizzard is going to loose a total 1.2 million players i garuntee it.

You cannot base TORs success off other MMO attempts. Those attempts did not have the Star wars fan base or backing of Lucasarts.

It is a star wars MMO made by Bioware who makes quality story based RPG games and is backed by Lucasarts and EA. Its the perfect combination. It will hurt wow and possibly claim the number 2 spot in the MMO market. As the article states in the end I agree competition is great, capitalism is dependent on good fair competition and it can only mean Blizzard will rightfully fail or work harder on quality of thier games to please thier customers again.

This time next year star wars will not be even close to wow. Just like lord of the rings with its own cult following it will be a non subscription based mmo that no body really cares about. It's took blizzard years to get wow where it is now and star wars as years and years of putting up with glitches, hacks, bots, and renewing content to even class itself in the same league. Wow and Diablo 3 for me 2012 :)

You said this will make wow stronger and that blizzard will go on the offense... WoW is releasing the new pandas and pokemon I liked wow as much as the next guy but it's simple become a joke I'm positive wow will soon die and not because of swtor although that may a small reason it will mainly be because of blizzard.

Wow will die when blizzard lets it - 2013 with the release of (Titan) simple as. Star wars subscription ATM ain't even a patch on wow 2mil is nothing

I just loved the part in the article where he compared rainbow, gears of war and fable as cheap wannabe copies.
For example, rainbow is a totally different game than cod. Cod sux, rainbow is also much moore bout teamwok and stratrgy than spray and pray. Halo and gears? Ok i cansee the red line. And it is that gears is way better than halo.
but none the less. Totally different games. Read up on them next time before doing somithing like that.
And tbh, wow is killing itself because now theyve de ided to make it a kindergarden game...

I quit wow just as cata was released, didnt think i would ever come back. Then SWTOR was released, i thought myself "time to get stuck in with the MMO:s again" but jesus, after reaching lvl50 (had loads of fun till that) on swtor, there's nothing (fun) to do.

Raids are bugged boring lame copies of wow, ilum pvp area is a joke. Only thing i enjoyed was Huttball warzone, that was seriously well thought and awesome fun.

I realised that WoW was actually pretty damn good game, it really bothered me that there is no way of determing how much damage you are doing in swtor, since there are no mods (yet) so no idea if our dps is bad or someone is just slacking around. So many mandatory MMO aspects missing in that game that it will never be good, sorry to break it to you people.

But still, i might someday roll another char and play the class quests through, i kinda got lots of knights of old republic flashbacks from awesome storyline of Sith Warrior.

I quit wow just as cata was released, didnt think i would ever come back. Then SWTOR was released, i thought myself "time to get stuck in with the MMO:s again" but jesus, after reaching lvl50 (had loads of fun till that) on swtor, there's nothing (fun) to do.

Raids are bugged boring lame copies of wow, ilum pvp area is a joke. Only thing i enjoyed was Huttball warzone, that was seriously well thought and awesome fun.

I realised that WoW was actually pretty damn good game, it really bothered me that there is no way of determing how much damage you are doing in swtor, since there are no mods (yet) so no idea if our dps is bad or someone is just slacking around. So many mandatory MMO aspects missing in that game that it will never be good, sorry to break it to you people.

But still, i might someday roll another char and play the class quests through, i kinda got lots of knights of old republic flashbacks from awesome storyline of Sith Warrior.

i played wow since vanilla and still playing it now. i'm also rolling some chars on SWTOR (not to lvl50 yet I must admit) and definitely the questing storyline makes me more in-game sinked and committed than I have ever been with wow (and so far this fit perfectly with my former love for KOTOR 1 and 2). There would be many topics to write of on wow_vs_swtor, but the only thing I would like to ask atm is: what about SWTOR gear? It's just me or it's kinda flat, poorly detailed and repetitive? I especially point my finger against some cyber-pilot weirdo looking head pieces. Ok I know some wow DKs could now tell me about their t11-12...
Concluding: Blizz please, really, seriously, give up with classes nerfing, PvP balancing and... Absolutely don't ever try to put those childish fat stupid pandas in game. Don't do it!!!

Well firstly I played wow since vanilla and stopped playing for a few Wks to play star wars. I thought this was it I love the star wars brand anyway and this was my mmo life sorted no more wow and star wars is the way forward. Yet last week I found myself renewing my wow subscription and not my star wars one. Why? Well the end game of star wars is poor and a bad copy of face rolling wow bosses in many cases. The pvp is interesting at first but quickly becomes glitchy and boring as does most of the game tbh. The levelling was fun at first however second time around it lost its appeal as your levelling for nothing the end game has me bored within a wk! The game itself is full of glitches which I suppose was to be expected and the gear design is bad. So along with the rest Of the guild I'm in 30plus members we have all decided to return to wow! Whilst I think the dragon soul content is pretty poor and the guild Im in cleared on normal in less than 2wks lol I am looking forward to what the pandas have to offer! Yes I agree parts of the expansion look a bit childish but from what I've seen the graphics are good and it looks like the gameplay might just be there to. It maybe I'm just fed up of mmos but I am gonna be giving wow one last chance And star wars well u never know but certainly won't be playing it until they release a lot more. From what I see on my server people are returning to wow already in there drives which means back to a log in queue for me!!!

Wow wins again for me. Swtor ive had a look at and it's not grabbed me at all will be sticking to wow. Also hear swtor is now losing subscriptions rather than gaining them well now the initial hype is over lets see what happens! Still not sure about mist of panadaria but I will be giving it a go but by then I imagine I will be stuck into Diablo 3 and my mmo days may be behind me

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