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by on Oct 12, 2009

In the beginning, MMORPGs were social experiences. Then came the idea of "playing alone together" and group support took a back seat to a polished solo experience in many MMOs. Continuing last week's thoughts on the renaissance of grouped play in MMOs, t

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In the beginning, MMORPGs were social experiences. Then came
the idea of "playing alone together" and group support took a back seat
to a polished solo experience in many MMOs. Continuing last week's
thoughts on the renaissance of grouped play in MMOs, today's column
calls not for a return to clueless PUGs and lengthy grouped sessions
where nothing gets done, but for a new wave of group support tools that
make low- and mid-level grouping fun and worthwhile again. It's all in
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2
  href="http://www.tentonhammer.com/taxonomy/term/115">Age of
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Biggest movers this week:

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514 (UP 13 to #15) Star
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Champions
Online
(release date) 9/9
- Dungeons
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(release date) 9/15
- Runes
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(expansion) 9/22 -
Fallen
Earth
(release date) 9/22
- Aion
(release date) 10/8
- Cities
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(release date) Upcoming
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11/3
- Dragon Age:
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- LotRO:
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(release date)

12/2
- DOFUS 2.0
(release date)

Early 2010
- APB

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10/23 - 10/24
- Hero-Con

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Maybe you've
had this conversation. I was trying to explain MMORPGs to an older
relative over the weekend, and we just couldn't get past this question:
"How do you win? How do you know who won?" You don't have to be
someone's grandma to think that the win condition is probably the most
indispensable in all of games design. Why compete or adventure at all
without a big overarching goal in mind? Single player games, however
sandboxey, always have a point at which you're the winner or loser. But
MMOs are alone in intentionally never allowing you to win once and for
all.



That doesn't stop MMO players from trying to win.
Every WoW content patch and expansion brings another wave of
malcontents that somehow, against all prior evidence, thought that
their hard-won gear would remain the best forever. Epics are
made to be broken, however, and all that the endgame rushers do is suck
the joy out of the level-up game. There's little permanent distinction
available for any but the most hardcore raiders, who are the only ones
who have a shot at server and world firsts.



So why play a game we can never really win? Are MMO fans just a bunch
of masochists piloting the Kobayashi Maru? No, MMOs offer a more mature
premise that appeals to a more mature gamer, because just as in real
life, winning is a fleeting and largely subjective thing. The winner of
American Idol is a has-been in three years' time. No one but Steelers
fans care who won last year's Vince Lombardi trophy. UEFA teams go from
winners to losers on the trade of a single player. Multiplayer game
matches might have a winner this time around, but if you want to climb
the leaderboards you're in for an impossible grind.



This ties into today's epic thread and Martuk's article on five
indispensible social mechanics, but I'd like to see MMOs get back to
the days of the private win. You know, when it was a successful night
when someone finally retrieved their corpse from Lower Guk or someone
got one single component they needed for a quest.
Or when things went unspeakably bad, so bad that they're the stuff of
stories five and ten years later. The overarching goal, grandma, was to
get together with some friends, tool around, and have fun, just like in
the pen and paper days. And if you've stepped off the achievement
treadmill long enough to enjoy this kind of gameplay, you know that it
beats the instant and fast-fading thrill you get from a puple drop.



While soloing has gotten a ton of attention in every game since WoW, href="http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/75400">Martuk's
article on five indispensible social mechanics shows that
little to nothing has changed in terms of group support. Instead of
improving grouped play, devs have opted to make it obsolete (in favor
of soloing) for all but the endgame. This kind of approach, in my
opinion, threw out the baby with the bathwater. The solo MMORPG came
about because of inattention to the needs and wants of co-op gamers,
rather than a driving popular desire. Playing along together is just
wasting bandwidth, and doesn't nearly tap into the kind of experiences
MMOs are capable of.



There's two things that people hate about groups: 1) the time it takes
to form a group and get something accomplished, and 2) poor quality
PUGs where no one knows what they're doing. We can work with these
problems by providing: mechanics that auto-assign roles and teach us
how to excel at them early in the game (with dramatic xp bonuses for
playing your role well); more teleportation and group-summon abilities;
better interfaces, visuals, and audio that tell us who is doing what
and who is getting hit; more short term group goals; more synergy
bonuses; and so on. 



If MMOs did a better job with supporting grouped play, I think we'd see
the kind of renaissance Machail (and a number of you) were pleading for
last week. Think so too? Disagree? Have your
say in the href="http://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?t=47056">Loading...
forums.


Shayalyn's Epic Thread of
the Day




From our href="http://forums.tentonhammer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3">Tavern
of the Ten Ton Hammer forum



href="http://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?t=47021">End
game? Why not the adventure...



"Are
you adventurous?" asks our forum regular, Khalus. "[Do you[ enjoy a
good story and the lore it's wrapped within, or do you only care about
the end game and want to get there as fast as possible?"



I
consider myself a casual gamer by design, but not necessarily by
choice. While I do like a good story, and I do have fun exploring, I'm
also very competitive and I don't like being left behind the other
members of my guild who set their sites on the end game and never look
back. But I've learned to accept that having a busy career and family
life precludes me being an end game rock star.



The answers to
the "end game or adventure" question are many and varied, and
discussions of this topic are always interesting. Which direction do
you head in a MMOG? Do you head straight for the top, or do you enjoy
the ride? href="http://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?t=47021">Discuss!



==============================

Awesome Quotes from the
Epic Thread




"I'm looking forward to
the journey through SWTOR. The destination can wait.
"



-AngryBeaver

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Have you spotted an Epic Thread on our forums? href="http://forums.tentonhammer.com/showthread.php?t=32559">Tell
us! 6 new Ten Ton Hammer MMOG features today! 55
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Editorial: Mechanics No
MMOG Should Launch Without


http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/75400



What
do gold spam mechanics, chat functionality, and guild support mechanics
have in common? Each are often times missing from an MMOG when it
launches. Stacy "Martuk" Jones explores the mechanics no MMOG should
launch without in today's editorial.



Aion Editorial: Adds
and
Changes Needed for the Game


http://www.tentonhammer.com/aion/editorials



NCsoft
launched Aion in Asia over a year ago and then spent considerable time
westernizing the game for the North American and European markets.
Through all of this testing a well made game emerged...but
there's
always room for improvement. Read about Medeor’s desires and demands in
Aion: Adds and Changes.



WoW Editorial -
Facerolling is Bad M’kay


http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/75376



Facerollers.
There is one in almost every group, you may be one yourself.
Facerollers are the definition of epic fail, and usually cause serious
facepalming to occur. Join Mem this week as he rants about these
players.



Aion Manastone Basics
Guide


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Aion's
Manastones are the little wonderful blessings that
allow players
to customize their character and manipulate their stats. You really
don’t want to waste those slots though and it isn’t always clear which
stones will benefit your class the most. This guide will not only
explain manastones, but will also give recommendations for your class
to get you started!



Champions Online :
B.A.S.H. Basics


http://www.tentonhammer.com/co/guides/bashpvp



Bored
with cage matches in Champions Online? Well, then step up to the next
level in PvP action! The friendly folks at Ten Ton Hammer are here to
guide you through this slobber-knocking free-for-all.


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